SLIGO, IRELAND and Irish Ancestry Research Sources-
Overview. Strategies, Steps, and Sources:
Part 1: Search Your Irish Ancestors correctly, accurately, quickly, and inexpensively!
1. BY 2017 MOST IRISH “VITAL RECORDS” ARE ONLINE AND FREELY ACCESSIBLE. WE HAVE COLLECTED MOST OF THOSE RECORDS, WITH LINKS OR HOSTED HERE. THE “BASE” IS THE 1901/1911 IRISH CENSUS – REFER TO IT OFTEN TO START (AS EVEN IF YOUR ANCESTORS HAD LONG SINCE PASSED BY THEN — COUSINS, SIBLINGS FAMILIES, SOMEONE SHOULD BE STILL AROUND FOR THE 1901 CENSUS, and a DECADE LATER 1911).
2. WE CAN RESEARCH IRISH ANCESTORS WITHOUT PAYING (ANY WEBSITES) BACK TO ABOUT THE POST FAMINE (1850) TIMES WITH HIGH-CONFIDENCE IF YOUR CAREFUL TO VERIFY DATES, LOCATIONS, AND NAMES EXPLICITLY (AS IN SPELLING). Errors do and did happen so be on the lookout for them !
3. THE SECOND PART OF IRISH GENEALOGY RESEARCH (AND OFTEN THE MOST CRITICAL PART) AFTER FINDING THE INDIVIDUALS IN THE RECORDS OR INDEXES — IS ORDERING THE”CERTIFICATES (OR “CERTS”) FROM OFFICIAL CHURCH OR GOVERNMENT SOURCES — AND THE FEE THEY USUALLY CHARGE IS OUTRAGEOUS, (A TRUE CASH COW FOR THEM).
We all should be complaining about as this is a cash cow to them – costs very little, but they charge in excess of the costs to provide the services – just to make money on relatives! We feel commercial entities should pay, but not personal family researchers – this should be free (or a drastically reduced).
Certs are for those who WANT TO BE ABSOLUTELY SURE (AS WE CANNOT GET DNA FROM LONG DECEASED PERSONS).
3A. THE GENERAL REGISTER OFFICE OR G.R.O. / GRO
For Irish Births pre-1950s, check the local Church’s Baptismal records first, as they are freely online now – which in the past, stand in for the “Birth Certficates”, in early “British Isles” records (prior to 1922) –
Below is the link to the GRO and explained in later pages:
WE INITIALLY WANTED TO KNOW OUR PAST TEN (10) GENERATIONS BACK (250 YEARS, ROUGHLY), OF OUR IRISH (OR WHEREVER) ANCESTORS SO WE HAD SOME WORK TO DO! SO, WE NEEDED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET BACK TEN GENERATIONS IN IRELAND – WHERE MANY RECORDS WERE DESTROYED, AND FEW OFFICIAL RECORDS EXIST PRE-FAMINE (1845) TIMES –SO, WE SETTLED ON A COMBINATION OF TRADITIONAL ANCESTRY RESEARCH, AND DNA RESEARCH -READ ON TO FIND OUT HOW TO DO IT YOURSELF (Order a DNA Test Kit now to speed things up as We do not like waiting !
4. SOME OF OUR KNOWN ANCESTORS BORN IN IRELAND (1898 and BEFORE) WERE KNOWN (GRandFather). ONE THING WE HAVE BEEN ASKED MANY TIMES HOW AND IN WHAT THE COMMON FAMILY (FARMER) LIVED IN IN SOUTH SLIGO, IRELAND. ALTHOUGH THE COTTAGES OCCUPIED BY “COTTAGERS” HAVE BEEN WELL KNOWN IN IRELAND (ESPECIALLY SINCE JOHN WAYNE’ AND MAUREEN O’HARA’S” THE QUIET MAN” MOVIE) – SOME HOUSES WERE COMMONLY BUILT AFTER THE FAMINE YEARS, PRIOR RURAL CONSTRUCTION WAS DONE TO AVOID TAXES (CESS) ON SUCH PROPERTIES. SEE BELOW FOR MORE INFORMATION (AS A KNOWLEDGE OF IRISH HISTORY HELPS IN GENEALOGY)!
BELOW ARE IMAGES OF A REGULAR IRISH FAMILY HOME (MINUS THE THATCHED ROOF WHICH HAS LONG DISAPPEARED)…BUT THE REST REMAINS AS IS, IN RUINS:
Now that you have seen a typical Irish Family Home (built circa 1830-60s est.) around the time before, or after Potato Famine.
Now, let’s move on to finding your Ancestor’s records the right way – and staying safe online (and on your computer) when doing so – for the least amount of time and treasure!
3 (A): — THE START OF THE IRISH ANCESTRY RESEARCH:
Disregard anything you know about USA, Scottish, or English records – Irish records are quite different and difficult but they can be found and mastered. To start, We need to at least two vital details,
(a) Religious denomination
(b) the specific Home (Farm) location.
Parish Records are not all neatly online and indexed, searchable like Scotland’s — quite a number of Ireland’s Roman Catholic Parish records can only be BROWSED (page-by-page) today from the microfilm.
Many Other Sources also exist for Ireland Genealogy records. MANY, so do not think you cannot find something –you can or a substitute. Ancestry.com is only the most well known but many more sites existed long before they came along and bought up many of the existing databases (many without exclusive access). In fact Genealogy was one of the more common uses of for the first Home Computers and networks in the first iteration of the internet (“internet 1.0” beyond DARPA’s initial iteration of linking defense networks).
Genealogists put records on DVDs and used on a Home Computers (say 1999) to work, and later they were put online – but today they are much easier to navigate. Many are free (but SOME sites try to charge for them). If someone tries to charge – go elsewhere. Searching is the best skill you can have today!
Many records specific to Ireland exist, and We have or host many specific to South Sligo too, as well as Mayo and surrounding areas.
IRISH CIVIL WAR LOSSES: Much was lost in the Four Courts Fire during the Irish Civil War Battle of Dublin 28 June to 5 July 1922, but not everything. We still have many other records, and “census substitutes.” Some include : The Hearth Money Rolls, Griffiths Valuation of Tenements, Tithe Defaulters, and the always useful 1901/1911 Irish Census (and many others). Many Tax Records exist the records mostly revolved around Land (Property) Taxes, or some variation. We will go into these, and others, on the following pages.
But First, some Basics about DNA testing and Genealogy:
DNA testing then Matching to others who also DNA tested is quite popular now (and 2016 was a large year for people doing DNA tests) and it is becoming one of the biggest advances in Genealogy in decades. One problem most do not know about is the three “Big” DNA testing companies do NOT share their match data with each other ! So if you test with FTDNA.COM, they do not match you to 23andMe.com and vice-versa. Some workarounds have been done.
You can upload your RAW DATA (from your DNA test results) to Family Tree DNA (FTDNA.COM) and then the data will be processed and your DNA matches will show up in FTDNA.COM’s list of matches — but it is an extra cost if you did not test with FTDNA.
Another way is GEDMatch.com.
But none of these ways combine all DNA testing companies matching data together — so you will be matched with all others who did a DNA test — a big issue most are realizing now and someone, or the companies will hopefully agree to a workaround. As AncestryDNA.com has a big start being they had all the Ancestry.com customers to market to and they “say” they have the biggest database, (which We doubt). Family Tree DNA is the original DNA Genealogical testing company, so they had a many year Headstart on AncestryDNA.com. Given that, I do not really buy AncestryDNA.com so called database size numbers.
I do know FTDNA has published their database size since they started, so it would be hard to fudge. AncestryDNA.com, with the Terms and Conditions issue (see below). On the other hand, I do not believe anything AncestryDNA.com says (and their response to the uproar about their Terms was and is deceptive – bottom line is your license your DNA to them IF YOU TEST WITH THEM). Sorry, I only want to TEST and match, that is what I am paying for (not to license my DNA to some corporation that might make millions off it and not ever pay Me one red cent)!! Sorry that entire thing is deceptive. People do not read the T&C and to do that is, well, dishonest.
And it is finally a way through those old “Brick Walls” many ended up with back in the pre-computer days. Suffice it to say with Traditional Ancestry and DNAancestry, We can get back many decades – indeed, many Centuries as we finally have a way to get through missing, or no, records with an even more accurate method, DNA. However, DNA testing is not free ($59.00 at FTDNA Family Finder atDNA Test as of June, 2017, with Coupons available reducing it even more). And, as noted below, some of the DNA testing companies are now TRYING to take advantage of people who do not know the details of DNA testing so one MUST be careful not to agree to something you should not (please read the warnings about AncestryDNA.com, Terms and Conditions)!
So, some basics or baselines you need to be aware of:
- Do not get trapped into paying Annual Subscription on Ancestry.com, or ANY site! You can do it monthly as it is only a couple more dollars — then unsubscribe, and sign back up next month (or 12 months) later. You can keep your data and information on their sites — but why would you — as anyone who has their own computer, should download all documents/images they want or are important, and keep everything on your own computer’s Hard Drive –
- Would YOU store your important papers (WIlls, Deeds, Titles) on another persons (or businesses) computer? Would you? No, Never (I hope you would sa). So why would you if you subscribe to Ancestry.com? So, change the settings at sign up and use the MONTHLY option (which means you have to change the default settings from Annual, which is what they want you to sign up for as then your stuck paying for the whole year – even if you only search for 6 months). Believe Us when We say, the excitement wears off and it is then “work”, so, you CAN subscribe MONTHLY and still accomplish your objectives (and/or if your already subscribed, call them RIGHT NOW, and do not get stuck with another Year, tell them to stop :Auto-Renew Annual subscription (where they automatically give you another Annual Subscription) and tell them to change it to MONTHLY subscription (but do not expect a refund, as your “Monthly” subscription will USUALLY start after your Annual is up. You can and should argue with them for a refund as these auto-renewals are not right). If your paying every day for a year you should be searching everyday for a year — and No One searches every day for a Year unless your a Professional getting paid to research (like for Probate cases). Fact is no one keeps up daily searching for an entire year (365 days) as after the initial excitement wears off it is work just like anything else – believe Us as we did search back 10 Generations and it takes alot more than Ancestry has ! So, do yourself a favor and only go Month-to-Month — you can end the Monthly subscription and start right back up the next Year and then do another Month (as they no doubt bought some new databases online) every year — We have been doing this for many years now.
2. You can STILL sign in to Ancestry.com without any paid subscription, (It wall TRY to get you to pay, and annoy the heck out of you by not letting you see things without paying — do NOT fall for it — your Tree stays up without any paid subscription, AND you can post and read the ancestry.com message boards without a paid subscription. The Leafs might, or might NOT be something you already knew (and their are ways around that too as you should know anything the computers were able to figure out.
3. As the most well known site genealogy PAID sites, we urge you to use it only in a limited way (as genealogy is a marathon, not a sprint ) as the usual path is you search and work a lot at the start and then gradually one reduces the time to once a week or once a month – this is fine, but make sure your not paying Ancestry.com everyday when your only using it once a month (or not at all as one estimated many people pay thinking their Tree will disappear — NOT TRUE — but you should have your Tree on your computer anyway. Nice Graphics of it does not change the Father/Mother=Child, down through Centuries.
4. Working One’s Family Tree or Ancestry is a long-term project as advances are made — it is for many a life-long hobby — so not blowing tons of money wastefully is important, as noted, every person you thinkis related by paper records, you MUST order the Birth Cert from the GRO to be sure — too many guess and assume and then get the shock of their life when the Kids re-check it and find your Tree was completely wrong because of ONE MISTAKE years ago .
But others do it once and never again too.
5.Ancestry.com HOST SOME AMAZING DATABASES. HOWEVER, THEY HAVE AN EXPENSIVE PAY-WALL ($39.95 to $49.95 month) and the Annual is $149.99 to $199.00.
5.PLUS SUBSCRIPTION IS REQUIRED AS IRELAND WAS THE BRITISH ISLES UP TO 1922. SO THIS IS ONE REASON WE ADVISE BEGINNING OR INTERMEDIATE RESEARCHERS **ONLY** SUBSCRIBE TO A MONTHLY SUBSCRIPTION (AND SEARCH EVERY DAY OF THAT MONTH)!
The Good news (many do not know) is that these exact same records are free on other sites like familysearch.com, as the Missionaries from LDS recorded them several times ! More on that later.
SOME COMPUTER BASICS FOR GENEALOGY (we include this after many reports from People on other sites of problems and most of it comes down too a lack of basics on computer operations :
1. COMPUTER BASICS –First, some basic skills to make sure your Computer’s Operating System is fully Up-to-Date, Windows 10 (Home or Pro) is the most common (check update right now, it is critical). Otherwise, your computer might be taken over by someone else (and everything on it they can read and take)! BE SAFE IS THE NUMBER ONE BASICS as you surely do not want someone watching you type, or look in on your camera staring at you (cover it with a post-it note when not using the camera-even the owner of Facebook does it)!
2. Next –let’s make sure you have a working and up-to-date next-generation firewalls let us say that again — NEXT GENERATION FIREWALLS ARE REQUIRED NOW.
The old port scanning firewalls do not work any longer. they look at certain ports but with the new systems they can vary their ports, and so can malware — SPEND THE MONEY ON NEXT GENERATION FIREWALL. It is like your House Front Door lock — you do not skimp on that I hope (see the videos online of thugs giving doors three to five good Kicks — if you door cannot withstand FIVE GOOD KICKS by a 200 Ilb Man, get a new door, door frame, and new locks (with a security system that records to the cloud (as even if they find a take the Network Video Recorder – it is on the cloud so Law Enforcement can look at it and post the video (or more likely today, search their facial recognition) — BEST TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY- We reinforced our Front, AND REAR door frames for less than $100 and a weekend project with the Buddies — we ended up the next weekend doing their door frames !!
*************************************************BE SAFE PEOPLE — IN the USA and even in Ireland, stuff happens. Don’t be the person who for a few bucks, is unsafe. THE NUMBER ONE RULE FOR THE MAN OR WOMAN IN THE HOUSE IS TO PROTECTION AND SAFETY *************************************
that is set properly. CHECK IT FIRST THING WHEN YOU TURN ON YOUR COMPUTER. And second, a good PAID and working up-to-date, Anti-Virus and Malware protection program. Norton360 is not bad. Always make sure that it is also up-to-date every time you turn on your computer. And, having it set up properly is critical — make sure it is working at all times (if it goes off for some reason, make sure you figure out why AND TURN IT BACK ON IMMEDIATELY — REBOOT (TURN OFF AND ON) YOUR COMPUTER — THESE ARE CRITICAL BASICS MANY NEGLECT TO THEIR PERIL ! IT IS CRITICAL ALL THESE ARE DONE ANY TIME YOU CONNECT YOUR COMPUTER TO THE INTERNET. It’s like leaving the front door to your House unlocked, and the door hanging open all day and night ! FIX IT NOW IF YOUR NOT SURE.
3. Next, We urge you to ALWAYS download your Records (or print them WITH THE CITATION INTACT every time you find something). However, in downloading anything, scan it with the above programs, before even consider opening it. It is critical to make sure it contains no malware, and it is not corrupted.
3A– remember the 3-2-1 rule for all computers and cloud accounts. Basically it goes: the 3-2-1 rule: three copies of your data,
two of which are local,
and one of which is offsite.
When it comes to cloud data, you still should have at least three copies, it’s okay to have a second copy at another cloud provider, but make sure you have a local copy as well. Making sure this works by OPENING THE FILE is critical, as we have seen many rely on seeing the file has downloaded — but not spending one second to open it. Sadly, many then have a crash of some sort, think (“THINK”) they have a backup file and then try to open it only to discover it is “invalid” data (and it is now gone forever)!
Considering how easy it is now to copy and look at files, by opening them, if you fail to do so and loose something you only have yourself to blame — follow these steps explicitly — as you WILL have a hard drive failure, a NIC crash or a network corruption at some point. Randsum RANDSOME wear is a big and getting worse problem — if it happens and you have yesterdays backup – you can wipe your system, reload windows, and get your backup files that were prior to the corruption and reinstall — without it your at the mercy of thieves and scum “black hat” hackers…Don’t be that person. BACKUP 3-2-1.
4. Do NOT leave any files on Ancestry.com’s servers — as you need to get into the habit of downloading everything to YOUR COMPUTER and not leaving it in Ancestry (as this chains you to paying them for the foreseeable future — do not get in that mode — keep everything on your own computer, with appropriate backups and copies of every important file (if you do not want to loose it with a hard drive crash, have all data on a second hard drive).
5. As noted, It is not only a good idea (generally) to have everything backed up on your home computer, but to have everything copied to a thumb drive every day (or week) but the the more you copy to a thumb drive, the more complete your backups will be).
6. Make sure to open anything you download right away AFTER THE SCAN IS FINISHED to make sure you got the complete file — after you scan it with anti-malware programs — and then open it after you download it and scan it to make sure each file download opens correctly (and was not corrupted). Sometimes you will have to download it a second (or third) time to have a complete file that contains the document or image you want.
7. PDF Format — The most common file format for documents downloaded, is the PDF format. Many free programs exist to open the PDFs and several are open source. We do not pay for these but sometimes they try to get you to obtain the “trial” instead of the free program — make sure to take time to read the download page and do NOT just click-click-click, you must know exactly what your downloading! Seeking reviews is a way to avoid problems, the PC Magazine, and other long standing RESPECTED computer sites will often lead you to the right download. Knowing is critical so get advice from fellow users who know what they are doing (as you do not want to have the blind leading the blind, and get files that put advertising or other malware on your computer (IF you start seeing ADS, you have some malware and MUST stop and remove it as it is probable some “free” program that puts ads on your system. REMOVE IT IN PROGRAMS and scan your computer! Scanning for malware is a critical thing to do every day.
8. WE INCLUDE THESE BASICS (THAT USUALLY ARE NOT ON GENEALOGY PAGES BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE DO NOT GET TRAINING, AND THUS ARE NOT TAUGHT THESE BASICS.
9. Finally, You also need to get used to maintaining your records on your computer (as Family trees will or should, remain up on Ancestry, if you have it set to public). Some people use a program like Family Tree Maker, which Ancestry syncs with to bring all files onto your computers hard drive (exactly what you want) and it removes the complex things noted above – but — even then, you have to know and check this is happening so learn the program if you get it, and keep up the regular subscription usually provided as they probably include security updates. IF YOU HAVE IN THE PAST LEFT EVERYTHING ON ANCESTRY, IMMEDIATELY START DOWNLOADING YOUR/THE FILES IMMEDIATELY. IT WILL TAKE TIME BUT HAVING YOUR IMPORTANT ANCESTOR’S FILES ON YOUR LOCAL HARD DRIVE/COMPUTER, WILL UNSHACKLE YOU FROM ANCESTRY.COM, AND YOU WILL HAVE EVERYTHING ON YOUR OWN COMPUTER (as paying Ancestry to store things is quite expensive a 2TB Hard Drive is less than $100 now in 2017).
REVIEW COMPUTER BASICS: a) DOWNLOAD ALL YOUR FILES AND b) DOUBLE CHECK YOU CAN OPEN THEM ON YOUR COMPUTER ONLY AFTER ANTI-VIRUS SCANS. IF YOU CANNOT OPEN THEM, REDOWNLOAD THEM.
BACKUPS: Make sure to make a copy of ALL the files you have on your computer (or just your Ancestry data), daily to a 128GB or 256GB thumb drive (which are available for less than $75.00 on Amazon). You can do this daily, weekly, or whatever –BUT JUST DO IT — and then do a proper “Backup” to different Hard Drive for your entire computer. Backup Programs exist to do it — we suggest NORTON 360 SUITE AS IT HAS IT ALL IN ONE PROGRAM (and is available FREE if your a Comcast HSI (meaning you have Internet from Comcast, look under “support” and download Norton Suite).
IRELAND SEARCHING FOR ANCESTORS – SOME OF THE BASICS OF IRELAND, AND RECORDS CREATED ON BIRTH, MARRIAGE, and DEATH:
Some Basics: Ireland was in the British Control from the Norman Invasion in May, 1169, to June, 1922. According to the OS, the British Isles is “purely a geographical term”.
In 1801, the Act of Union with Ireland created the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. When the 26 counties of Ireland became a Free State in 1922 the name was changed again to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.”
To start or finish your research, in Ireland, you will need to first FIND the information you KNOW to find the information THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW presently. It is a step-by-step process.
To get to this information We use databases by name, then area, then location, then DOB, then to the Family and then Individual – finally after trying to make sure We have the right person, is to obtaining the Certs – a Birth Registration from the GRO (General Register Office) if necessary to get the DOB and PARENTS NAMES. We can also get Marriage or Death Certs. but they are USUALLY not needed if We have the Birth Cert (and you can check such things on Gravestones if need be. For Grand-Parents, and Great Grand Parents doing it all is usually a good idea!
In Ireland of old, the Baptism was the first thing done on Birth of Child, usually within Days of Birth. So, for the most part in Ireland, your after the Baptismal Cert. and the Birth Registration — they will probably be different dates depending on where the birth was as rural farming communities the Birth might not have been “registered” for some time after the actual birth. BUT the Baptism would have been within Days of Birth.
Ordering Certs: Birth, and Marriage and Death Certs. your will be able to confirm, as best as is possible, your Ancestor vital events, and it will give you the Mother’s Name, and the day registered. Some of this is educated guessing but has been followed by Irish researchers for many decades- and for 1800-to-1900 records, it is the only way.
MAKE SURE YOUR FIRST FIND OF UNKNOWN ANCESTORS **ARE YOUR ANCESTORS** (till you get the hang of it) NOT SOMEONE WITH THE SAME NAME, IN THE SAME AREA, BORN AROUND THE SAME TIME. THEY MUST HAVE THE CORRECT PARENTS NAMES, WHICH LEADS YOU BACK TO ANOTHER GENERATION. THIS WILL REPEAT SEVERAL TIMES.
A FRIENDLY WARNING: We have seen far too many people doing research who had little experience to begin with, and many, indeed too may (something like 85% +) make a critical error in the first part of their research by making “assumptions” NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING UNTIL YOU HAVE THE BIRTH CERT. – especially in Ireland or the UK as they are completely unique. You MUST know the person with the same name as your Ancestors IS your Ancestor – (We have seen many people tracing ancestry of another Family sometimes for years before someone realized (or pointed out) that one critical mistake made years earlier usually in the first five “finds” of Ancestors). DO NOT BE THAT PERSON. CHECK AND DOUBLE CHECK THE DATE OF BAPTISM IS CORRECT. GET THE BAPTISMAL CERTIFICATE. CONFIRM THE NAMES EXACTLY. IF YOU NEED HELP, MAKE SURE THE PERSON YOU GET IT FROM IS QUALIFIED AND KNOWS THESE RECORDS AND HISTORY. We have step by step guides on searching Ireland and UK records, and advanced Research as it is different than other Countries (as the British Empire was HUGE back then) :
AGAIN, WE SUGGEST YOU ONLY SUBSCRIBE TO ANCESTRY.COM FOR A ONE MONTH BASIS and then cancel after one month of daily and determined searching). You can always add another Month if you need to later.
IF your not searching every day, do NOT pay Ancestry ! It is that simple. Why pay for something your not using?
EVEN WITHOUT A PAID SUBSCRIPTION you can still sign into Ancestry, see your tree, and use the Message Boards (which are well over 30 years old) and work the free databases (like the USA Archives hosted on Ancestry). We go a month every year to catch up on new databases.
CITATIONS, CITATIONS, CITATIONS ARE THE RULE:
Keep track of where you search, and the detailed search sources and WHERE these records are stored (even if you print a copy, where it is is most important as sometimes official records are needed. The database and the page are often called “Citations” and they tell others WHERE you (or they) can find the Records again– a record you cannot find again is worthless — and this is how you prove descent from your Ancestors –IT IS THE KEY. So, it is essential to keep the records of where the records ARE !These Citation of where these records are is THE critical part of Ancestry (so save your Kids the trouble and keep detailed records of where the records are). THIS IS HOW PROFESSIONALS DO IT. THEY PROVE AND PROVIDE THE CITATION TO THE RECORDS THEY RELY.
IF You descend from so-and-so, keep your proof (work) on your Home computer, and make sure with a couple backups (just in case)-see below how to do that cheaply without much hassle. And, this should be stored on YOUR computer — not Ancestry.com. Would you leave your Deeds and Titles on someone else’s Computer or House? Heck No.
It is simple as that. Download the records to YOUR computer and thus store them for free on your own computer!!
Always check the surrounding Counties in the area when your Ancestors lived, as you can find other records as today the borders we have they did not know, nor care, about them — so We have to try to think like our Ancestors did, life was on the edge and they could not care about the Borders we have today, the names of Counties We have today — survival was the name of the game back then and they were always one days lost meals from the end of it all — so get the Borders and names We use today out of your “research Head” and think what it would have been like back then, with a Family, a Wife, a Child to support.
Especially in the 1800s, things in Ireland generally, and certainly NW Ireland (Sligo, Mayo, Lietrim, ect..) were much more sparsely populated and organized (even though the overall population was much larger than today). Sometimes Our Ancestors had to go some many miles — a long distance when you are walking with no shoes, or riding with no saddle — to register a Birth, to get Married, and even for Deaths (registrations)!
The Church was the only constant for much of the times. But during much of this time, the Roman Catholic Church, the “Papists” as they were then called, were persecuted and hunted. Priests had a Bounty on their Heads and could be killed at will by the Protestant ascendancy — so, this was at times a terrorizing place, and life was not worth much back then when one can kill another without any ramifications.
So, as noted above, one must in researching Our Ancestors We must TRY (although it certainly is almost impossible) to get our comfortable living standards out of Our Heads and imagine how hard life was, how physically demanding, and how emotionally trying it must have been knowing someone could come and kill you, and not only get away with it, but be rewarded by the then Government for doing so!
OUR INITIAL AND MAIN FOCUS:
Our main concentration is on Sligo ‘s (41) Civil Parish and Roman Catholic Church Parishes – generally centered around Kilmactigue (Kilmacteige)- South Sligo, Ireland .
The area is quite Large in Land area – essentially from Ballina, Mayo to Foxford, Mayo – to Curry, and Tubbercurry, Sligo. Kilmactigue is but a small part of this land area which has been occupied from Ancient times — the Sligo-Mayo Border crosses this area. All are within Connacht Kilmactigue.
Our interests essentially is the Area next to Aclare, Sligo, Ireland. It is a Wonderful part of the “Auld Sod” and hosted here are as many records from, in, and about this Area of NW Ireland, that We can and have found – and all FREE for Personal, Non-commercial, personal Family research! If you wish to use this site for other than these authorized uses, please contact webmaster at webmaster at kilmacteige dot com.
If you wish to help transcribe the Ireland Land Deeds, contact the Registry of Deeds Index Project Ireland – they surely can use help as an Index of Deeds is probably one of the newest resources available to Irish Researchers !
Kilmactigue / Kilmacteige
Townland and the Townland Markers:
For Kilmactigue (Kilmacteige) Parish We host as many records of this area in South Sligo as We can find We have sought them out from all over, London, to Dublin, to Sligo Town, to America — wherever they might be We have looked and still find hidden Gems every so often!
Below is the Townland Marker for Kilmactigue, Sligo, Ireland:
Below is a wider photo of the Kilmactigue Townland Marker in the Wall of Holy Rosary Church, Kilmactigue, Sligo, Ireland.
And even Wider Photo showing Holy Rosary Church, Kilmactigue, Sligo, Ireland !
Many Records (except the State and Church) for the area are here, broken into topics BMD -other records are still in private hands and have been for many decades, which presents issues of obtaining them , making copies, and obtaining any permissions needed to display them (such as Copyright). One of the then (1850) Largest LandOwners is the (land rental) Records of Sir Robert Gore-Booth, 4th Baronet (and later the 5th). We are looking for these presently.
To the NW of Kilmactigue Parish, is Oughaval Townland, Co. Sligo
Townlands is the smallest Administrative Units in Ireland and the most common “name” you are going to hear for an Ancestor’s and where the lived or the place they worked, lived, farmed.
BEST MAP SITE FOR IRELAND IN 2017
The new Ireland
site is our a new Map site–it is the Official “go-to Map application” for Us, for ALL of Ireland — no matter what We are looking for – Castles, check, High Cross-check. Ancestors Land -check (make sure you know your coordinates). Address We want to stand in front of and look-check. It seems to have it all. PLEASE have your fastest connection for this, and We also suggest you keep other tabs, sites, and
If you not there on the “auld Sod” this Mapping App IS the very best, next best thing. It is a good map, but the major power is it is combined with different “database layers” of various thins you can add. And, you can quite literally add anything that has been done mapping wise in the past 100 years !
You can look at old ruins of you Ancestors on these maps (We DO suggest you have the fastest internet connection possible, as it has to download these layers. The next best thing is to give it some time to do so — don’t expect instant results and give the layers a bit to download – and even street view works — so it is as if your standing right there in front of a place, zoom to Satellite view from the top, then back down to Street-view again — quite amazing Tech (or “kit’ as the Ancestors would have called it possibly) !!
partly, in the the Church (Dioceses) Records. So the Dioceses of Elphin and Achonry are covered, but also some of Killala and Tuam.
For the purposes of Civil Jurisdiction , it is divided into the baronies of:
(1) Burrishoole, (2) Carra, (3) Clanmorris, (4) Costello, (5) Erris, (6) Gallon, (7) Kilmain, (8) Murrisk, (9) Tyrawley.
DISCLAIMER: It also must be noted, (as with any project), errors can creep into the process, so please check the source if you find something that interests you as We warranty nothing and cannot (even though We try our best) assure that anything herein is accurate as We depend on records made long ago!
We also host the Records of Families / Residents / Occupiers (as they called them back then) of the South Sligo and Eastern Mayo — this includes the Ancient Baronies of Gallen (Sligo and Mayo),
and “Lieney” (now Leyny, Sligo) ,
The Anchrony and Elphin Dioceses , and along with a multitude of Townlands, Place-names, DEDs, Sub-Townlands and many other areas of Land. And, over the Centuries many things changed, such as the Names of a place. And, the most concerning is the Spelling.
SPELLING has always been an unique issue when doing Irish research as We have the Irish-to-Anglo and how they were entered into Records. This is especially problematic for Researchers as miss one letter you could miss an entire AREA.
And, many Borders also changed over time (such as Sligo/Mayo border in 1898). So check that where you think the area was called in the past is called the same later (We doubt it as even small spelling changes happened).
We try to reference, and cross-reference the old with the new- but, as always double check yourself as We can, and make no, assurances !
MAPPING – LOOK AT SOME (NOT ALL LISTED) OF SOUTH SLIGO’S LOCAL AREA MAPS:
A map of the Civil Parishes of County Sligo is available at the Irish Times web site, many links being checked and updated.
A map of the Roman Catholic (RC) Parishes in County Sligo is available at the Co. Sligo, Ireland, online link to the Library Maps (see below — but they did have issues running, at times).
The Civil Parish, Barony, Poor Law Union, Catholic Parishes, and Catholic Diocese, and other Land Divisions, in Sligo, are:
|Civil Parish – Church of Ireland||Barony||Poor Law Union||Catholic Parish||Catholic Diocese|
|Achonry||Leyny||Tobercurry||Clonacool; Achonary and Curry||Achonry|
|Ballysadare||Leyny||Sligo||Ballysadare and Kilvarnet||Achonry|
|Cloonoghil||Corran||Tobercurry||Kilshalvey, Kilturra, and Cloonoghill||Achonry|
|Dromard||Tireragh||Dromore West||Skeen and Dromard||Killala|
|Easky||Tireragh||Dromore West||Easky; Kilglass||Killala|
|Emlaghfad||Corran||Boyle||Emlefad and Kilmorgan||Achrony|
|Kilcolman||Coolavin||Boyle||Castlemore and Kilcolman||Achrony|
|Kilfree||Coolavin||Boyle||Kilfree and Killaraught||Achrony|
|Killaraght||Coolavin||Boyle||Killfree and Killaraught||Achrony|
|Killerry||Tirerrill||Sligo||Killenumerry and Ballintogher||Ardagh|
|Kilmorgan||Corran||Sligo||Emlefad and Kilmorgan||Achrony|
|Kilshalvy||Corran||Boyle||Kilshalvey, Kilturra and Cloonoghill||Achrony|
|Kilturra||Corran||Tobercurry||Kilshalvey, Kilturra and Cloonoghill||Achrony|
|Kilvarnet||Leyny||Tobercurry||Balysodare and Kilvarnet||Achrony|
|Skreen||Tireragh||Dromore West||Skreen and Dromard||Killala|
|Templeboy||Tireragh||Dromore West||Templeboy and Kilmacshalgan||Killala|
And the BEST is saved for Last (on this page at least)
IN late 2006 the local Pub — the Trout and Pheasant, was closing. We happened to be visiting at the time and recorded, for posterity, some of the best people in the area while We all shared a few pints….so, Here is Tim and Cash at the start of the closing Party the song British Soldier go on Home (…all in good Humor of Course)….It was a great time …. never to be forgotten…and AND OH, . .Tim says…”.We can’t swear because of the kids !!